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14/02/2009, 17:54
arkadaşlar bildigimiz gibi lpg sistemlerinin en iyisi prins. Kullanılan enjektorler honda motorlarında kullanılan keihin marka enjektorlerdir ancak turkiyede fiyatı 2250 ytl ve peşin fiyatıdır. Makine muhendisi bizim araçta buna hiç gerek olmadıgını arada hiç bir fark olmadan landi renzo sistemini taktırmamızı oneriyor bu sistemde kullanılan enjektorler bosch marka. Kafama yattı gibi cuni fiyat farkı tam 500 ytl ve bu landi renzoya 5 taksit yapılabiiliyor. Ayrıca en ufak bir problemde istersek aradaki farkı odedigimizde ucretsiz olarak prins ile degistireceklerini soyluyorlar. Sizin bu landi renzo hakkında bilgi ve tavsiyeleriniz nelerdir? ayrıca bir yazı buldum prins ve landi renzo ile ilgili sanırım birbirine gercekten yakın kalitedeler ancak ben tam cozemedim sizlerle aşağıda paylaşayım. Yardımcı olabilecek arkadaşlara şimdiden çok teşekkur ederim.
Prins
Pro:
it has the very of the , most durable and reliable injector, silent operation. Made by Keihin, a Honda subsidiary manufacture part for Honda, as Denso is to Toyota. It also feature a reducer from Keihin, it is fabricated from stainless steel thus extremely rigid on the other hand the quality you're getting is equivalent to Honda OEM quality.
When comes to ECU and software, it also remain the among the others, where software crash is never seen during test. Compare to AEB re-badged software I can say it is the most sophisticated one. Looking back the past, its master-slave control mechanism was the pioneer one before others came out similar design.
Now Prins has minor update to its product line, an electronic controlled fuel additive dosage dispenser is added to the existing kit, the dosage and on/off is now controlled by its VSI ECU, dosage switches on in CNG mode and off in petrol mode. much more reliable than the unsophisticated venturi effect Flashlube dispenser, dosage accuracy is highly improved.
Prins has OEM ship Proton now, all upcoming NGV model will feature factory installed CNG-KIT from Prins.
Cons:
The reducer is single stage, but according to what Prins stated, its performance is same as double stage, pressure could be well maintain even in the event of sudden high flow at deeply depressed pedal. I doubted if this is true, but one thing for sure is, Single stage means single diaphragm, less prone to hardened diaphragm problem than double stage.
Landi Renzo
Pro:
More suitable for complex engine management system, injection rate and timing could be fine tuned very precisely K Insertion mapping ( Injection rate respect to engine revolution), but this is heavily relied on the skill of installer if the mapping data is not previously exist for specific car. Pressure reducer is well built. They carry various version of components to suit all installations.
Injector control electronic is made by Bosch, injector from MED, the most latest batch even uses world- Keihin injector (Honda OEM injector manufacturer, a subsidiary of Honda Motor), making the injection performance on par Prins
https://img389.imageshack.us/img389/5145/bmw2hb0.jpg
Con:
Injector response time 3.1ms (1.6ms open, 1.5ms close) is a bit slow, maybe you'll notice some lag when pedal is pressed, released. Injector has noisy clicking sound in operation.
Prins
Pro:
it has the very of the , most durable and reliable injector, silent operation. Made by Keihin, a Honda subsidiary manufacture part for Honda, as Denso is to Toyota. It also feature a reducer from Keihin, it is fabricated from stainless steel thus extremely rigid on the other hand the quality you're getting is equivalent to Honda OEM quality.
When comes to ECU and software, it also remain the among the others, where software crash is never seen during test. Compare to AEB re-badged software I can say it is the most sophisticated one. Looking back the past, its master-slave control mechanism was the pioneer one before others came out similar design.
Now Prins has minor update to its product line, an electronic controlled fuel additive dosage dispenser is added to the existing kit, the dosage and on/off is now controlled by its VSI ECU, dosage switches on in CNG mode and off in petrol mode. much more reliable than the unsophisticated venturi effect Flashlube dispenser, dosage accuracy is highly improved.
Prins has OEM ship Proton now, all upcoming NGV model will feature factory installed CNG-KIT from Prins.
Cons:
The reducer is single stage, but according to what Prins stated, its performance is same as double stage, pressure could be well maintain even in the event of sudden high flow at deeply depressed pedal. I doubted if this is true, but one thing for sure is, Single stage means single diaphragm, less prone to hardened diaphragm problem than double stage.
Landi Renzo
Pro:
More suitable for complex engine management system, injection rate and timing could be fine tuned very precisely K Insertion mapping ( Injection rate respect to engine revolution), but this is heavily relied on the skill of installer if the mapping data is not previously exist for specific car. Pressure reducer is well built. They carry various version of components to suit all installations.
Injector control electronic is made by Bosch, injector from MED, the most latest batch even uses world- Keihin injector (Honda OEM injector manufacturer, a subsidiary of Honda Motor), making the injection performance on par Prins
https://img389.imageshack.us/img389/5145/bmw2hb0.jpg
Con:
Injector response time 3.1ms (1.6ms open, 1.5ms close) is a bit slow, maybe you'll notice some lag when pedal is pressed, released. Injector has noisy clicking sound in operation.